Multiecuscan

Hello!

Can I use cheap scanners like ELM 327 from Ebay to test Punto 176 (1998, with 3-point connector - I will by additional Fiat adapter for scanner) engine ?

Is there some proven models of such scanners ?

Tried to search forum but didn't find anything exactly about unexpensive scanners complictable with Punto 176, just a topic about some problems with ELM 327
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Please, answer as soon as possible

First of all go to this web site: http://www.multiecuscan.net/SupportedVehiclesList.aspx

Try to find your car on the list! And you will see what kind of ECU's does FES software has as a support for your car!
It is probably ABS ECU and AIRBAG ECU supported! For those ECU's you need a VAG COM USB KKL 409.1 interface and 3 pin adaptor!

To scan your ENGINE ECU you will need IAW SCAN software. Just go to this web site: http://iaw-scan.sourceforge.net/
Cheers

Many thanks!

Then, what is the difference between VAG KKL and more expensive devices like ELM 327 (even in cheap ebay version) ?
VAG KKL is unable to scan ABS, airbag and other additional systems ?
Currently, I need to check engine and all its sensors.

Punto176 wrote:Many thanks!

Then, what is the difference between VAG KKL and more expensive devices like ELM 327 (even in cheap ebay version) ?
VAG KKL is unable to scan ABS, airbag and other additional systems ?
Currently, I need to check engine and all its sensors.

The KKL is a very basic opto-isolator interface, which doesn't support the CAN language.
The ELM327 is a more advanced EOBD based chip which can do a lot more language translation and does support CAN.
Crucially though, each can do things that the other can't, so for full coverage from FES you need a KKL and an ELM327, or you can go for the more expensive OBDKey option, which supports all the features.

Thanks!
I looked at 3-pin adapter and at VAG USB KKL scanners (which mentioned in the How to use page), and there are also
VAG K + CAN 1.4 OBD2 devices, they are a little more expensive and have a slightly different wide connector, whis a 2 bigger contacts between contacts in one of the rows.
I will by VAG USB KKL with connectos same as on adapter, but what is the differens between it and VAG K+CAN 1.4 ?
Can it also read CAN ?

Please do not buy the VAG K+CAN 1.4 interface!
It is a little bit different interface and it will not work with your Punto!

Just try to find VAG COM KKL USB 409.1 interface! That is one that you need!

The VAG K+CAN 1.4 interface in mainly used for correction of millage on the odometer for VW group!

Thanks!

I've run Multiecuscan (free mode), and in Punto 98 75 there is no engine, only ABS and other additional systems.
Can I check engine with this VAG KKL ("blue box") ?

As mentioned before the multiecuscan does not support your ECU yet. However you may use the IAW ECU Scan or it's succesor - IAW-Scan 2:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/iaw-scan2/