Clutch pedal learning

[Nixeus]

Hello everyone,

I just bought a Giulietta Multi Air 170hp petrol
I had it reprogrammed to E85 and stage 1 by the MTD team (a globally renowned team for multi airs). I just took a spin in Multi Ecu Scan because my engine light was flashing, and I saw that I needed to redo a phonic wheel learning, which I was able to do through the dedicated procedure.

However, I still have two faults:

P080A-55 / Clutch pedal learning
P1306-55 / Neutral signal learn.

From what I understand after some digging, the second fault should only be resolved if there are no other engine faults, so I'm trying to address the first one. Clearing the codes doesn't change anything; I even did a complete ECU reset and relearning, but it doesn't change anything. I thought simply pressing the clutch pedal all the way would correct this fault, but it doesn't seem to change anything after several attempts...

I was wondering if any pros here might have an idea. Of course, I've sent an email to my mapping team, awaiting updates.

Thanks to all!

[s130]

Have you done the MES Neutral Learn Adjustment?

This procedure is used to learn the position of first and neutral gear (manual transmissions only). This is required for the optimal functioning of the STOP&START system.
The following conditions are necessary for the procedure:
- Key on MAR
- Engine OFF
- Clutch pedal NOT pressed
- No errors
- Gear in Neautral
NOTE: The procedure must be performed in the following sequence:
1. Press the Execute button (gear in Neutral, clutch not pressed)
2. Wait ~2 seconds
3. Press the clutch and insert 1st gear

ALSO - on the parameters there is: Clutch Pedal Learning

This parameter indicates whether the self-learning of the lower limit of the clutch sensor has been completed correctly.

[Nixeus]

Hello,

Yes i tried this procedure, engin OFF, MAR, gear in neutral, no clutch press, i execute then MES told me values was under good condition...
I tried in Alfa OBD, same !

Maybe it's due to the file i flashed on my ECU, i'm waiting about MTD team answer.

[Nixeus]

Hello guys,

Still not possible to do these learning

Tried with alfa obd too, and it failed

I have these errors since i flashed my ECU with KESS( clone).

[Nixeus]

Hello :

Some news after lot of try....

Still not able to do the two learning with MES or Alfa OBD > Error > Incorrect condition to run this test ( pretty the same message in Alfa Obd)

However, I flashed my file again with Kess (clone) and noticed something strange : once the progress bar reaches 100% during the flash, Kess asks me to turn the ignition on and off several times, without requesting anything else. Once everything is done, I still have my two current errors.

If I flash again, and once it reaches 100%, if I keep the clutch pressed, Kess asks me to press the clutch and then press OK, after which it asks me to release it... and it goes through a "learning" process again.

However, at the end, instead of getting a "success" message, I get an "Error UM 00:000".

If I then go into MES, I only have the neutral point fault to learn, the one related to clutch pedal learning is no longer there, so I feel like the post-flash procedure in kSuite (on protocol 532) is incorrect.

I've tested 3 different versions of KSUITE, and they all behave the same way.

Similarly, if I go to Tool, and delete errors (still in KSUITE), on protocol 532, it just makes me do ON/OFF cycles and never asks me to press the clutch, even though it should....

That's why I think it's a configuration problem with protocol 532 with the clone.

Any ideas on things to try?

Thank you