Missing menus from TFT display - Abarth 500

[Fifrelin]

The answer is no. You can't do the full alignment between a Uconnect TFT to a BLue&Me car. In fact it will work, but you will miss some of the features like MENU, Temperature, and others.

A little search on Ebay from Europe will help you to find the right one.

I have 2 of them installed here in Brazil, one in a CULT model (POP) and other in a SportAir.

Regards.
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Thank you for your feedback. In the meantime I have installed an Abarth facelift meter. The only problem was the date and time but I managed to fix that with miltiecuscan 4.8. Only the % throttle function in sport mode does not work. Before the installation it was a 595 competizione wallpaper but after the proxy alignment of my Abarth (2009) it became a pre facelift wallpaper 🥲

[robi80]

hi sorry for my english

One thing I have not yet understood, how to solve the pressure gauge problem and Sport writing always on.
I mounted a tft blue and me on Abarth 2010 and 2 bar pressure gauge of a 2017 competition.
Tft all ok with the limits we know.
Manometer instead written always on even in normal mode.

Can it be solved with multiecuscan or do you need something else?

[Henry992]

so what does alfaobd do that multiecuscan doesnt do that will fix missing menus after changing speedo

multiecuscan can and will edit the proxy bits. You can change everything in there BUT you cannot see what each proxy bit does.


Alfaobd doesn't show you the proxy bits but does have a drop-down menu that shows all of the parameters you can change.

I ended up wanting to use the new (2019) display in my 2013. I first saved a copy of my original proxy string (in case I ever want to revert to my old cluster). Then I copied a proxy string from a 2019 abarth with the same features as my 2013 (other than Uconnect) and then replaced my proxy string with that.

Because my ECU doesn't support a 144 bit proxy string, I then deleted the extra 57 or so bits to get the new string to be the same length as my original string. I then did the proxy alignment. Upon doing that correctly, it did the alignment without errors.

Next I opened up Alfaobd and when through all the options in there to enable and disable the features I wanted.

Then I disabled the TPMS with Alfaobd.

Then I programmed my maestro idatalink to say that I had a 2019 fiat abarth. This means that the stereo imitates Uconnect which the cluster is looking for. The ecu is old and doesn't look for uconnect so it will now cause the odometer to flash but it will be talking to the cluster now.

Now the stereo can talk to the cluster (but not the ecu)

Next I went into my aftermarket (Pioneer) stereo and changed the units to MPG and fixed the clock and date.

Then I programmed my maestro idatalink to say that I had a 2013 fiat 500 turbo (what I actually have). Now the ecu can see the stereo AND the cluster.

The stereo is NOT talking to the dash though. It doesn't need to as the cluster remembers its settings.

Now I'm done! Date and time are correct (though to change them if the battery goes flat I will have to flash idatalink to a 2019 fiat again)

The ecu is talking to the cluster because the proxy bit length is correct. The TPMS light is out on the dashboard but the pressures are now read by my stereo (and I turned on the stereo's alert if they get low).

The odometer doesn't blink because ecu can talk to both the cluster and the stereo (through idatalink)

Hi guys I’m new here. I was going to ask you if you could send me this proxy setting??? As I’ve changed the tft and messed up the proxy settings as it changed from abarth version to some strange fiat version, and it doesn’t even change the dials when in sport mode. I’v got 2011 abarth manual so should be the same as yours. Please, please help… tnx

[frankinstyn]

so what does alfaobd do that multiecuscan doesnt do that will fix missing menus after changing speedo

multiecuscan can and will edit the proxy bits. You can change everything in there BUT you cannot see what each proxy bit does.


Alfaobd doesn't show you the proxy bits but does have a drop-down menu that shows all of the parameters you can change.

I ended up wanting to use the new (2019) display in my 2013. I first saved a copy of my original proxy string (in case I ever want to revert to my old cluster). Then I copied a proxy string from a 2019 abarth with the same features as my 2013 (other than Uconnect) and then replaced my proxy string with that.

Because my ECU doesn't support a 144 bit proxy string, I then deleted the extra 57 or so bits to get the new string to be the same length as my original string. I then did the proxy alignment. Upon doing that correctly, it did the alignment without errors.

Next I opened up Alfaobd and when through all the options in there to enable and disable the features I wanted.

Then I disabled the TPMS with Alfaobd.

Then I programmed my maestro idatalink to say that I had a 2019 fiat abarth. This means that the stereo imitates Uconnect which the cluster is looking for. The ecu is old and doesn't look for uconnect so it will now cause the odometer to flash but it will be talking to the cluster now.

Now the stereo can talk to the cluster (but not the ecu)

Next I went into my aftermarket (Pioneer) stereo and changed the units to MPG and fixed the clock and date.



Then I programmed my maestro idatalink to say that I had a 2013 fiat 500 turbo (what I actually have). Now the ecu can see the stereo AND the cluster.

The stereo is NOT talking to the dash though. It doesn't need to as the cluster remembers its settings.

Now I'm done! Date and time are correct (though to change them if the battery goes flat I will have to flash idatalink to a 2019 fiat again)

The ecu is talking to the cluster because the proxy bit length is correct. The TPMS light is out on the dashboard but the pressures are now read by my stereo (and I turned on the stereo's alert if they get low).

The odometer doesn't blink because ecu can talk to both the cluster and the stereo (through idatalink)

Hi guys I’m new here. I was going to ask you if you could send me this proxy setting??? As I’ve changed the tft and messed up the proxy settings as it changed from abarth version to some strange fiat version, and it doesn’t even change the dials when in sport mode. I’v got 2011 abarth manual so should be the same as yours. Please, please help… tnx

Hello. I'll try to help but I sold my Fiat 500 Turbo so I no longer have the vehicle to check the settings on.

I ended up using a combination of proxys. I first saved my original proxy file but it sounds like you didn't do that.

This was my original file...


My File

31 33 31 36 33 33 39 31 36 30 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 30 20 13 02 07 4F 84 00 04 13 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 13 00 00 00 80 E0 45 07 40 41 01 70 AA 0D 18 67 21 19 00 B4 1E 20 02 00 47 20 10 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 45 00 00 00 00 31 06 B1 01 00 00 04


Then I took the first 85 bits (I think I counted right) of the 595 style (my favorite) and wrote those.

Abarth 595 restyled model from 2016:

33 32 31 35 30 30 31 39 34 35 30 4F 55 54 50 55 54 44 4A 49 54 20 16 06 20 4F 84 00 05 10 00 00 00 09 00 00 04 10 00 00 00 81 C2 75 06 FE 00 1C C0 00 00 00 16 00 01 00 94 06 01 01 00 40 00 00 20 75 41 0A 0C 0D 01 80 2E 24 00 00 00 00 31 02 51 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 00 94 08 52 00 04 88 02 00 20 80 00 00 40 00 81 00 0F 00 00 00 80 05 00 C0 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


I then used Alfa Obd to change features, applying after each change to see if that fixed whatever feature that didn't work. I wrote several different proxys and after a few, the car let me write a long 144 bit string to it. I couldn't tell you why though. It just worked.

This is the proxy string I ended up with.

Edited File

31 35 31 35 36 39 38 33 32 30 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 30 20 14 10 15 6F 84 00 04 03 00 00 00 29 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 80 E0 4D 06 F4 40 01 75 BA 15 08 67 01 09 00 94 0A 12 02 1E 01 30 30 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 27 00 00 00 00 31 06 B1 01 80 00 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 01 94 28 52 00 04 88 02 00 20 80 68 00 40 00 81 00 0F 00 00 00 80 85 80 C0 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00



Before I sold the car, I swapped back in the original cluster and wrote the correct mileage to it.

I do still have the TFT cluster in my garage if anyone is interested but you would have to go through all of this in order to use it.

[Moike]

Greetings, new user, having similar issues some others have run into, hours with a search engine and reading forum posts have not fixed my problem.

Vehicle - 2014 US Spec 500 ABARTH

TFT dash purchased - 735633917 - MFG date 02/03/16 - https://i.imgur.com/d54Mjfj.jpg ~ https://i.imgur.com/yJC7Ktd.jpg
Tools used - OBDLink SX and a six pack of OBD2 ECU Scan Adapter Connector Diagnostic Cable MultiEcuScan For Fiat Alfa - https://i.imgur.com/Emg6KTD.jpg
Using Multiecuscan REGISTERED that I just purchased ~ https://i.imgur.com/ny3yr7n.jpg

• When originally installed the TFT dash booted with the ABARTH logo and instrument cluster theme.
• After setting mileage and proxy alignment the dash has reverted to the standard 500 theme.
• Editing byte 65 to known values (00, 20, 40, 50, 60, 70) does not change the display theme at all.
• Editing byte 65 to random values does not change the display theme at all.
• Dropping in HEX values posted elsewhere in this thread does not change the display theme at all.

Could use some help flipping the TFT dash 735633917 back to the ABARTH theme.

Apparently I'm not allowed to use url/url wrappers so enjoy cutting and pasting those image links into a browser.

[frankinstyn]

I had to swap in the complete proxy code and then change individual options using alfaobd.

I was then able to have whatever design I wanted. I went with the 595 cluster display.

[Moike]

I had to swap in the complete proxy code and then change individual options using alfaobd.

I was then able to have whatever design I wanted. I went with the 595 cluster display.

Yeah, I saw your reply earlier in the thread with the hex codes and the steps you took to tweak it using alfaobd.

I'm willing to give it a shot, and I hate to ask, but you got a link to somewhere I can download / buy alfaobd?

[Moike]

I've bought / installed AlfaODB and read through the documentation but I'm missing something, because I don't see any option in any dropdown in AlfaODB for changing the display theme.

How exactly are you making the change in AlfaODB?

[chrener]

multiecuscan can and will edit the proxy bits. You can change everything in there BUT you cannot see what each proxy bit does.


Alfaobd doesn't show you the proxy bits but does have a drop-down menu that shows all of the parameters you can change.

I ended up wanting to use the new (2019) display in my 2013. I first saved a copy of my original proxy string (in case I ever want to revert to my old cluster). Then I copied a proxy string from a 2019 abarth with the same features as my 2013 (other than Uconnect) and then replaced my proxy string with that.

Because my ECU doesn't support a 144 bit proxy string, I then deleted the extra 57 or so bits to get the new string to be the same length as my original string. I then did the proxy alignment. Upon doing that correctly, it did the alignment without errors.

Next I opened up Alfaobd and when through all the options in there to enable and disable the features I wanted.

Then I disabled the TPMS with Alfaobd.

Then I programmed my maestro idatalink to say that I had a 2019 fiat abarth. This means that the stereo imitates Uconnect which the cluster is looking for. The ecu is old and doesn't look for uconnect so it will now cause the odometer to flash but it will be talking to the cluster now.

Now the stereo can talk to the cluster (but not the ecu)

Next I went into my aftermarket (Pioneer) stereo and changed the units to MPG and fixed the clock and date.



Then I programmed my maestro idatalink to say that I had a 2013 fiat 500 turbo (what I actually have). Now the ecu can see the stereo AND the cluster.

The stereo is NOT talking to the dash though. It doesn't need to as the cluster remembers its settings.

Now I'm done! Date and time are correct (though to change them if the battery goes flat I will have to flash idatalink to a 2019 fiat again)

The ecu is talking to the cluster because the proxy bit length is correct. The TPMS light is out on the dashboard but the pressures are now read by my stereo (and I turned on the stereo's alert if they get low).

The odometer doesn't blink because ecu can talk to both the cluster and the stereo (through idatalink)

Hi guys I’m new here. I was going to ask you if you could send me this proxy setting??? As I’ve changed the tft and messed up the proxy settings as it changed from abarth version to some strange fiat version, and it doesn’t even change the dials when in sport mode. I’v got 2011 abarth manual so should be the same as yours. Please, please help… tnx

Hello. I'll try to help but I sold my Fiat 500 Turbo so I no longer have the vehicle to check the settings on.

I ended up using a combination of proxys. I first saved my original proxy file but it sounds like you didn't do that.

This was my original file...


My File

31 33 31 36 33 33 39 31 36 30 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 30 20 13 02 07 4F 84 00 04 13 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 13 00 00 00 80 E0 45 07 40 41 01 70 AA 0D 18 67 21 19 00 B4 1E 20 02 00 47 20 10 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 45 00 00 00 00 31 06 B1 01 00 00 04


Then I took the first 85 bits (I think I counted right) of the 595 style (my favorite) and wrote those.

Abarth 595 restyled model from 2016:

33 32 31 35 30 30 31 39 34 35 30 4F 55 54 50 55 54 44 4A 49 54 20 16 06 20 4F 84 00 05 10 00 00 00 09 00 00 04 10 00 00 00 81 C2 75 06 FE 00 1C C0 00 00 00 16 00 01 00 94 06 01 01 00 40 00 00 20 75 41 0A 0C 0D 01 80 2E 24 00 00 00 00 31 02 51 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 00 94 08 52 00 04 88 02 00 20 80 00 00 40 00 81 00 0F 00 00 00 80 05 00 C0 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


I then used Alfa Obd to change features, applying after each change to see if that fixed whatever feature that didn't work. I wrote several different proxys and after a few, the car let me write a long 144 bit string to it. I couldn't tell you why though. It just worked.

This is the proxy string I ended up with.

Edited File

31 35 31 35 36 39 38 33 32 30 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 30 20 14 10 15 6F 84 00 04 03 00 00 00 29 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 80 E0 4D 06 F4 40 01 75 BA 15 08 67 01 09 00 94 0A 12 02 1E 01 30 30 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 27 00 00 00 00 31 06 B1 01 80 00 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 01 94 28 52 00 04 88 02 00 20 80 68 00 40 00 81 00 0F 00 00 00 80 85 80 C0 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00



Before I sold the car, I swapped back in the original cluster and wrote the correct mileage to it.

I do still have the TFT cluster in my garage if anyone is interested but you would have to go through all of this in order to use it.

Hi!
What did you do with Idatalink? Cloned your uCoonect or original radio? Because in your proxi setting is once added some modules and than removed...
Especially EntertainmentTelematicModule = Uconnect and than Radio Receiver Module = old type radio... So i Think that IPC cluster depends on connected Uconnect radio...

[Fellpape]

Hi,
my name is Jörg and I have a Fiat 500C 2019. I changed my Uconnet 5 to an Uconnet 7 and it is working great. Last weekend I changes the tacho and I am happy with my new car! The digital tacho is great and is working nice, but I think that the digital tacho do not recognize the Uconnet 7? I have the small menu inside the tacho without Navi and without radio. Have everyone an idea which byte is wrong or what can I do to get the hole functions of the tacho? I changed the byte 65 to the vallue 20 or 40, but there was no Reaktion, the graphic is still Like the original Fiat 500 design. Have I to change any bytes? I have no idea. The uconnet radio is working fine.

Thank you very much and best regards

Jörg

33 32 31 35 30 30 34 38 31 35 35 4F 55 54 50 55 54 44 4A 49 54 20 19 01 31 4F 80 00 05 10 00 00 00 09 00 00 04 10 00 00 00 83 47 73 06 F4 20 1C C0 00 00 00 16 00 01 00 94 06 41 01 00 40 00 82 00 75 41 0A 0C 0D 01 80 2E 24 00 00 00 00 31 05 18 03 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 74 00 94 00 22 00 04 93 07 00 20 80 00 00 44 00 D5 00 0F 00 00 00 00 05 00 40 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00