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Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 24 May 2023, 01:40
by jmorrison757
Hey All,

Car is a North America Giulia, 2019. New to Alfa's, and my first Proxi Alignment didn't go well.

I tried a proxi alignment (custom) tonight and encountered several timeout errors. After encountering the errors, I have reverted the proxi configuration from custom back to stock and am still encountering errors in several modules. I also now have a CEL, Service Engine Message, and blinking odometer.

I performed the proxi with an ObdLink LX. I have a SGW bypass installed. And I did swap the cables as prompted during proxi alignment.

Any ideas on how to proceed? Any help is appreciated. Below is my latest log.

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Reading CAN configuration data ...
CAN CONFIGURATION DATA:
4F 0C 40 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 4F 0C 40 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 04 0C 00 40 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
4F 0C 40 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 4B 0C 00 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 4F 0C 40 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 4B 0C 00 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 09 04 00 65 10 40 19 00 02 00 00 00 80 00 00 00
30 34 36 32 31 30 31 35 39 34 39 4F 55 54 50 55 54 2D 53 49 54 20 18 11 28 4F 0C 40 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 4B 0C 00 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 41 5A E7 81 C9 82 07 F3 50 31 81 07 40 10 30 0A AA 20 04 72 41 FF 63 28 00 43 C2 B8 09 83 AC 24 12 23 07 00 80 00 0C 4E 00 00 1A 04 00 89 00 5B FA 02 07 F5 05 31 20 09 72 15 3D 81 10 7B 00 EA 00 BB 10 13 A4 3D 49 03 03 3A FF 4F A1 00 01 01 00 00 F0 20 08 1E 0A 0A 00 00 20 04 00 0C 1C 00 00 00 40 31 00 00 00 03 00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Body Computer Node (BCM/NBC)
Engine Control Node (ECM/NCM)
Dashboard Node (IPC/NQS)
Automatic Transmission Node (TCM/NCA/NCR)
Gearbox Selector Node (ESM/GSM/NSC)
Driver Assistant System Node (DASM)
Radio Frequency Hub Node (RFHM)
Climate Control Node (HVAC/NCL)
Entertainment Telematic Node (ETM)
Amplifier Node (AMP)
Comfort Seat and Wheel Node (CSWM)
Left Blind Spot Sensor Node (LBSS)
Right Blind Spot Sensor Node (RBSS)
Entertainment multimedia control module (EMCM)
Electric Steering Node (EPS/NGE)
Brake System Node (ABS/BSM/NFR)
Parking Sensor Node (PAM/NSP)
Airbag Node (NAB/ORC)
Self-adaptive Headlamps Node (AFLS/NFA)
Haptical Lane Feedback Node (HALF)
Chassis domain control module (CDCM)
(Multiecuscan 5.0)
5/23/2023 9:01:01 PM
Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.0 Turbo 16V MultiAir
CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure (952)
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Body Computer Node (BCM/NBC): EOL Ok
Engine Control Node (ECM/NCM): EOL Failed
Dashboard Node (IPC/NQS): EOL Ok
Automatic Transmission Node (TCM/NCA/NCR): EOL Failed
Gearbox Selector Node (ESM/GSM/NSC): Ok
Driver Assistant System Node (DASM): EOL Failed
Radio Frequency Hub Node (RFHM): EOL Ok
Climate Control Node (HVAC/NCL): EOL Ok
Entertainment Telematic Node (ETM): EOL Ok
Amplifier Node (AMP): EOL Ok
Comfort Seat and Wheel Node (CSWM): EOL Ok
Left Blind Spot Sensor Node (LBSS): EOL Ok
Right Blind Spot Sensor Node (RBSS): EOL Ok
Entertainment multimedia control module (EMCM): EOL Ok
Electric Steering Node (EPS/NGE): Ok
Brake System Node (ABS/BSM/NFR): EOL Failed
Parking Sensor Node (PAM/NSP): EOL Ok
Airbag Node (NAB/ORC): EOL Ok
Self-adaptive Headlamps Node (AFLS/NFA): EOL Ok
Haptical Lane Feedback Node (HALF): EOL Ok
Chassis domain control module (CDCM): EOL Failed

CUSTOM PROXI NEW DATA:
30 34 36 32 31 30 31 35 39 34 39 4F 55 54 50 55 54 2D 53 49 54 20 18 11 28 4F 0C 40 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 4B 0C 00 65 10 40 19 02 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 41 5A E7 81 C9 82 07 F3 50 31 81 07 40 10 30 0A AA 20 04 72 41 FF 63 28 00 43 C2 B8 09 83 AC 24 12 23 07 00 80 00 0C 4E 00 00 1A 04 00 89 00 5B FA 02 07 F5 05 31 20 09 72 15 3D 81 10 7B 00 EA 00 BB 10 13 A4 3D 49 03 03 3A FF 4F A1 00 01 01 00 00 F0 20 08 1E 0A 0A 00 00 20 04 00 0C 1C 00 00 00 50 31 00 00 00 03 00 1A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
PROXI ALIGNMENT PROCEDURE
Writing CAN configuration data ...
Writing to module: Body Computer Node (BCM/NBC) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Engine Control Node (ECM/NCM) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Dashboard Node (IPC/NQS) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Automatic Transmission Node (TCM/NCA/NCR) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Driver Assistant System Node (DASM) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Radio Frequency Hub Node (RFHM) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Climate Control Node (HVAC/NCL) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Entertainment Telematic Node (ETM) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Amplifier Node (AMP) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Comfort Seat and Wheel Node (CSWM) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Left Blind Spot Sensor Node (LBSS) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Right Blind Spot Sensor Node (RBSS) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Entertainment multimedia control module (EMCM) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Brake System Node (ABS/BSM/NFR) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Parking Sensor Node (PAM/NSP) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Airbag Node (NAB/ORC) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Self-adaptive Headlamps Node (AFLS/NFA) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Haptical Lane Feedback Node (HALF) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Chassis domain control module (CDCM) FAILED! - Timeout error
FAILED TO EXECUTE
Engine Control Node (ECM/NCM) FAILED! - Timeout error



Re: Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 24 May 2023, 09:56
by shpuncik
from first Multiecuscan homepage:
Bluetooth OBDKey, ELM 327 and OBDLink interfaces are fully supported but not recommended for special functions (like PROXI Alignment, remote control programming, IMA coding, etc.)!

Re: Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 24 May 2023, 15:51
by jmorrison757
Derp. Thanks... I have a USB adapter ordered now.

In your experience, is it likely any of the modules are bricked, or should everything be fine once I do a successful Proxi alignment with a correct adapter?

Re: Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 24 May 2023, 17:25
by shpuncik
jmorrison757 wrote: 24 May 2023, 15:51 Derp. Thanks... I have a USB adapter ordered now.

In your experience, is it likely any of the modules are bricked, or should everything be fine once I do a successful Proxi alignment with a correct adapter?
in my experience proxi has never bricked any modules so far ;) do proxi alignment with USB/wifi adapter and you'll be fine.

Re: Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 24 May 2023, 19:46
by jmorrison757
shpuncik wrote: 24 May 2023, 17:25
jmorrison757 wrote: 24 May 2023, 15:51 Derp. Thanks... I have a USB adapter ordered now.

In your experience, is it likely any of the modules are bricked, or should everything be fine once I do a successful Proxi alignment with a correct adapter?
in my experience proxi has never bricked any modules so far ;) do proxi alignment with USB/wifi adapter and you'll be fine.
Thank god. I am a bit panicked with the number of lights on my dash because of the failed alignment. Thanks for the help and I will report back if I still experience an issue with the USB adapter. And I will definitely follow the user guide this time.

Re: Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 26 May 2023, 11:31
by elektric93
shpuncik wrote: 24 May 2023, 17:25
jmorrison757 wrote: 24 May 2023, 15:51 Derp. Thanks... I have a USB adapter ordered now.

In your experience, is it likely any of the modules are bricked, or should everything be fine once I do a successful Proxi alignment with a correct adapter?
in my experience proxi has never bricked any modules so far ;) do proxi alignment with USB/wifi adapter and you'll be fine.
could you confirm that wifi version of icar vgate pro will do the alignment?

Re: Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 26 May 2023, 12:05
by shpuncik
elektric93 wrote: 26 May 2023, 11:31
shpuncik wrote: 24 May 2023, 17:25
jmorrison757 wrote: 24 May 2023, 15:51 Derp. Thanks... I have a USB adapter ordered now.

In your experience, is it likely any of the modules are bricked, or should everything be fine once I do a successful Proxi alignment with a correct adapter?
in my experience proxi has never bricked any modules so far ;) do proxi alignment with USB/wifi adapter and you'll be fine.
could you confirm that wifi version of icar vgate pro will do the alignment?
no I can't because I don't use wifi/BT

Re: Proxi Failure (Alfa 952)

Posted: 28 May 2023, 13:01
by bowdenandymecom
As it's a 2019 car, it is likely to have the Security GateWay (SGW). Thus I believe you will need an SGW by-pass to effect a Proxi Alignment.