Fiat Ducato - cannot connect to any modules
Posted: 02 Nov 2021, 14:07
So... I have successfully tested my OBDLink interface but cannot connect to ANY module. Vehicle is a 2012 UK Ducato.
I am trying to resolve an issue with my automatic gearbox, which will not go into gear when the engine is running (but will when it is not running...).
This same issue happened a couple of months ago, and the garage said they fixed it by clearing error codes and resetting the gearbox parameters. I can see what I need to do in 'simulation' mode in the module.
Problem is I cannot connect to any of the modules. I suspect I have a CANBUS issue. When I try to connect to ANY module I get the 'no response from module' error.
Seeking some advice on next steps?
My interface is via a OBDLink adapter. I have pulled it apart and it seems good quality and genuine, not a copy. I have used the test function in MES and all was well. I have also used the F12 'Scan DTC' function successfully.
After the first scan, I saw the following... note the CANBUS issues:
Scan vehicle for available modules and check each module for errors...
Engine / ECM
Bosch EDC17CP52 CF5/CF5+/EOBD Diesel Injection (3.0)
ISO Code: FD 86 7A 89 5B
Hardware number: 0281018291 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1037557040 - Ver: 5044
Errors found:
U0001-88 - C-CAN line error - Bus OFF
Gearbox / TCM/NCA/NCR (Automatic Transmission)
Marelli SELESPEED CFC348 Automatic Gearbox
ISO Code: BC 07 A2 8A C4
Hardware number: CFC 348F.09 - Ver: 00
Software number: FGC11IOF - Ver: 0000
Errors found:
P0857-86 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Signal/message invalid
P0856-81 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Invalid serial data received
Body / BCM (Body Computer Module)
Body Computer Marelli (250FL)
ISO Code: 40 83 6D 8A 8F
VIN code: ZFA25000002155966
Hardware number: BC250I.0100 - Ver: 04
Software number: 04440002513 - Ver: 0217
Errors found:
B1007-15 - Side or front direction indicators (left) - Short to +V or open circuit
B1008-15 - Side or front direction indicators (right) - Short to +V or open circuit
B1016-15 - Third STOP light - Short to +V or open circuit
B10AA-4A - PROXI configuration control - Incorrect component installed
U0001-88 - C-CAN - Bus OFF
U1733-87 - Convergence Telematic Node (NCV) - Missing message
ABS / ABS/BSM (Brake System Module)
Bosch ABS 9 ESP
ISO Code: EC 07 94 89 E5
Hardware number: 0265956036 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1267990944 - Ver: 0701
Errors found:
U1711-86 - Automatic Transmission (NCA-NCR) - Signal/message invalid
U1701-87 - Engine control (NCM) - Missing message
U1712-87 - Steering angle sensor - Missing message
U0001-87 - C-CAN line error - Missing message
I cleared the errors, started the van and tried to select a gear - failed as usual. So I ran the Scan DTC again and got this:
Engine / ECM
Bosch EDC17CP52 CF5/CF5+/EOBD Diesel Injection (3.0)
ISO Code: FD 86 7A 89 5B
Hardware number: 0281018291 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1037557040 - Ver: 5044
Gearbox / TCM/NCA/NCR (Automatic Transmission)
Marelli SELESPEED CFC348 Automatic Gearbox
ISO Code: BC 07 A2 8A C4
Hardware number: CFC 348F.09 - Ver: 00
Software number: FGC11IOF - Ver: 0000
Errors found:
P0857-86 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Signal/message invalid
P0856-81 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Invalid serial data received
Body / BCM (Body Computer Module)
Body Computer Marelli (250FL)
ISO Code: 40 83 6D 8A 8F
VIN code: ZFA25000002155966
Hardware number: BC250I.0100 - Ver: 04
Software number: 04440002513 - Ver: 0217
Errors found:
B1016-15 - Third STOP light - Short to +V or open circuit
ABS / ABS/BSM (Brake System Module)
Bosch ABS 9 ESP
ISO Code: EC 07 94 89 E5
Hardware number: 0265956036 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1267990944 - Ver: 0701
Errors found:
U1712-87 - Steering angle sensor - Missing message
I am trying to resolve an issue with my automatic gearbox, which will not go into gear when the engine is running (but will when it is not running...).
This same issue happened a couple of months ago, and the garage said they fixed it by clearing error codes and resetting the gearbox parameters. I can see what I need to do in 'simulation' mode in the module.
Problem is I cannot connect to any of the modules. I suspect I have a CANBUS issue. When I try to connect to ANY module I get the 'no response from module' error.
Seeking some advice on next steps?
My interface is via a OBDLink adapter. I have pulled it apart and it seems good quality and genuine, not a copy. I have used the test function in MES and all was well. I have also used the F12 'Scan DTC' function successfully.
After the first scan, I saw the following... note the CANBUS issues:
Scan vehicle for available modules and check each module for errors...
Engine / ECM
Bosch EDC17CP52 CF5/CF5+/EOBD Diesel Injection (3.0)
ISO Code: FD 86 7A 89 5B
Hardware number: 0281018291 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1037557040 - Ver: 5044
Errors found:
U0001-88 - C-CAN line error - Bus OFF
Gearbox / TCM/NCA/NCR (Automatic Transmission)
Marelli SELESPEED CFC348 Automatic Gearbox
ISO Code: BC 07 A2 8A C4
Hardware number: CFC 348F.09 - Ver: 00
Software number: FGC11IOF - Ver: 0000
Errors found:
P0857-86 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Signal/message invalid
P0856-81 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Invalid serial data received
Body / BCM (Body Computer Module)
Body Computer Marelli (250FL)
ISO Code: 40 83 6D 8A 8F
VIN code: ZFA25000002155966
Hardware number: BC250I.0100 - Ver: 04
Software number: 04440002513 - Ver: 0217
Errors found:
B1007-15 - Side or front direction indicators (left) - Short to +V or open circuit
B1008-15 - Side or front direction indicators (right) - Short to +V or open circuit
B1016-15 - Third STOP light - Short to +V or open circuit
B10AA-4A - PROXI configuration control - Incorrect component installed
U0001-88 - C-CAN - Bus OFF
U1733-87 - Convergence Telematic Node (NCV) - Missing message
ABS / ABS/BSM (Brake System Module)
Bosch ABS 9 ESP
ISO Code: EC 07 94 89 E5
Hardware number: 0265956036 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1267990944 - Ver: 0701
Errors found:
U1711-86 - Automatic Transmission (NCA-NCR) - Signal/message invalid
U1701-87 - Engine control (NCM) - Missing message
U1712-87 - Steering angle sensor - Missing message
U0001-87 - C-CAN line error - Missing message
I cleared the errors, started the van and tried to select a gear - failed as usual. So I ran the Scan DTC again and got this:
Engine / ECM
Bosch EDC17CP52 CF5/CF5+/EOBD Diesel Injection (3.0)
ISO Code: FD 86 7A 89 5B
Hardware number: 0281018291 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1037557040 - Ver: 5044
Gearbox / TCM/NCA/NCR (Automatic Transmission)
Marelli SELESPEED CFC348 Automatic Gearbox
ISO Code: BC 07 A2 8A C4
Hardware number: CFC 348F.09 - Ver: 00
Software number: FGC11IOF - Ver: 0000
Errors found:
P0857-86 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Signal/message invalid
P0856-81 - VDC messages (from CAN) - Invalid serial data received
Body / BCM (Body Computer Module)
Body Computer Marelli (250FL)
ISO Code: 40 83 6D 8A 8F
VIN code: ZFA25000002155966
Hardware number: BC250I.0100 - Ver: 04
Software number: 04440002513 - Ver: 0217
Errors found:
B1016-15 - Third STOP light - Short to +V or open circuit
ABS / ABS/BSM (Brake System Module)
Bosch ABS 9 ESP
ISO Code: EC 07 94 89 E5
Hardware number: 0265956036 - Ver: 00
Software number: 1267990944 - Ver: 0701
Errors found:
U1712-87 - Steering angle sensor - Missing message