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Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 15:36
by milek021
He everyone! I have a question, will this new 2.1 version work with KL interface in Stilo 1.9 jtd made in 2006 year. If not, I see this

What to expect in next releases:
- Support for ECUs connected to CAN network
- Support for Bosch Motronic Me3.1
- Support for Grande Punto

So, does it mean that new version of FiatECU scan will work with any HEX-COM-CAN for VAG, VCDS or something like that called (even older versions like 504.1, because I have schematic and hex for it,and I'm not sure quite, maybe I have those all so for 805 version ) interface for VAG ?

I tried KL with v2.1 but no communication. so it's probably CAN protocol being used? Maybe some stilo 2006 1,9jtd owners to confirm this ???
Thanks

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 10:14
by alfa156sarajevo
just few basic infos about software and interfaces:

1. Multiecuscan (software) is a diagnostic tool for Fiat, Alfa and Lancia vehicles.
to use the software
2. you need to have a k-line (VagCom - also known as VAG COM 409.1) or ELM 327 v1.3 (or later) interface cable in order to use this program.

I don’t think that your HAX CAN interface can help you with this software! ;)

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 14:23
by milek021
Yes, i know that, it is for Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Lancia and I know that works with KL and ELM327 1.3+, but that is until today including v2.1 options and that is not working with Fiat Stilo 2006, but normaly working on Stilo 2002 and I don't have "problem" with that.

I asked for next releases, on home page it say> What to expect in next releases:
- Support for ECUs connected to CAN network
...
So if next release of software support CAN why shouldn't support CAN via. hex+CAN interface, or it is going to be supported just CAN over ELM327 interface ?!?

But as I see you are like me, end user of this software, and You probably can't know the answer what to expect in future. ( i razumeli bi smo se i bez engleskog :D )


-I think that yani could answer on my question... ? yani, are U here ? :)

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 15:19
by yani
Hi,

Currently the program supports only the following 2 interfaces:
- old VagCom interface (which is actually a simple K-line interface)
- ELM 327 v1.3 interface

You can connect to the CAN network with the ELM 327 interface.

I don't have any documentation of this HEX+CAN interface, and I haven't seen it publicly available on the internet. So, there is simply no way to support it.
There are actually a lot of interfaces which can connect to the CAN network, but I cannot support all of them. ELM 327 is cheap and widely available.

Yani

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 15:34
by dany25360
The program supports ELM 327 V1.5 interface ??? :?:

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 15:53
by yani
The original manufacturer of the ELM interface ( http://www.elmelectronics.com/ ) does not have version 1.5 yet.

As far as I know the chinese ELM 327 v1.5 interfaces have ELM 327 v1.3 software inside. So, the program should work with them.

The problem with these chinese units is the low quality. A lot of them are faulty.
And do not ask me to recommend a supplier. I can't.

Yani

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 18:58
by milek021
Thanks yani, that is exact info I was looking for. So, CAN via elm chip. I will build a interface based on ELM327 by my own, it's not a problem at all. :geek:

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 19:33
by yani
milek021 wrote:Thanks yani, that is exact info I was looking for. So, CAN via elm chip. I will build a interface based on ELM327 by my own, it's not a problem at all. :geek:
Then, it is better to use ELM 1.4 IC. It has better support for some older protocols and a better support for CAN.
I don't have support for these additional features yet, but I will soon.

Yani

Re: Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD 2006 NO connection !?

Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 18:24
by mattydr67
Hi Yani
I red somewhere that in a ELM327 v1.3a interface you can upgrade it just change the chip.
So tell me if you know that, if I have an ELM327 v1.3a interface and I will change it with a ELM327 v1.4 chip, I can upgrade this interface?
Ok, any ideea will be helpfull.
thanks