Multiecuscan

Hello,

I have a brazilian Fiat Bravo Tjet 152HP 2013/2014 with factory navigation (RadioNav/InstantNav) and Blue&Me.

So, what I did was unplug the navigation and unplug Blue&Me. Obviously I got a flashing odometer after removing then.

Then I bought the MES e tried to do a Proxy Alignment and got this error:

Reading CAN configuration data ...
CAN CONFIGURATION DATA:
05 00 84 4F 05 00 84 4F 00 00 04 01 00 00 04 01 00 00 00 00
05 00 84 4F 04 00 04 A9 05 00 84 4F 04 00 04 A9 04 00 04 09
33 33 31 39 38 30 30 30 39 33 33 4F 55 54 50 55 54 2D 4A 49 54 20 11 11 04 4F 84 00 05 A9 04 00 04 85 0B 20 07 BC 48 5F 07 00 02 81 06 01 1E 2D 28 00 91 04 53 00 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00 05 0C 01 00 00 00 3A 20 B8 88 00
Body Computer Node (NBC)
Engine Control Node (NCM)
Electric Steering Node (NGE)
Dashboard Node (NQS)
Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN)
Brake System Node (NFR)
Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV)
Climate Control Node (NCL)
Side Acceler./Yaw Node (NYL)
Parking Sensor Node (NSP)
Airbag Node (NAB)
25/03/2015 22:35:34
CONNECTED TO:
Fiat Bravo '07 1.4 Turbo 16V
CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure
--------------------------------------------------------------

Body Computer Node (NBC): EOL Ok
Engine Control Node (NCM): Ok
Electric Steering Node (NGE): Ok
Dashboard Node (NQS): EOL Ok
Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN): -
Brake System Node (NFR): Ok
Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV): -
Climate Control Node (NCL): EOL Ok
Side Acceler./Yaw Node (NYL): Ok
Parking Sensor Node (NSP): Ok
Airbag Node (NAB): EOL Ok

EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Information displayed
Old value: Type 5/RadioNav
New value: Type 3/Blue&Me Nav
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
PROXI ALIGNMENT PROCEDURE
Writing CAN configuration data ...
Writing to module: Body Computer Node (NBC) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Dashboard Node (NQS) FAILED! - Data out of range error
0
0
0
0
0
0
Writing to module: Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN) FAILED! - Timeout error
0
0
0
0
0
0
Writing to module: Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV) FAILED! - Timeout error
Writing to module: Climate Control Node (NCL) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Airbag Node (NAB) SUCCESS!
FAILED TO EXECUTE
Dashboard Node (NQS) FAILED! - Data out of range error



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If i plug both, the Nav and B&M again, and try another Proxy Alignment I get:
Reading CAN configuration data ...
CAN CONFIGURATION DATA:
05 00 84 4F 05 00 84 EF 00 00 04 21 00 00 04 01 00 00 00 00
05 00 84 4F 04 00 04 A9 05 00 84 EF 04 00 04 A9 04 00 04 A9
33 33 31 39 38 30 30 30 39 33 33 4F 55 54 50 55 54 2D 4A 49 54 20 11 11 04 4F 84 00 05 A9 04 00 04 85 0B 20 07 BC 48 5F 07 00 02 81 06 01 1E 2B 28 00 91 04 53 00 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00 05 0C 01 00 00 00 3A 20 B8 88 00
Body Computer Node (NBC)
Engine Control Node (NCM)
Electric Steering Node (NGE)
Dashboard Node (NQS)
Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN)
Brake System Node (NFR)
Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV)
Climate Control Node (NCL)
Side Acceler./Yaw Node (NYL)
Parking Sensor Node (NSP)
Airbag Node (NAB)
25/03/2015 22:52:56
CONNECTED TO:
Fiat Bravo '07 1.4 Turbo 16V
CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure
--------------------------------------------------------------

Body Computer Node (NBC): EOL Ok
Engine Control Node (NCM): Ok
Electric Steering Node (NGE): Ok
Dashboard Node (NQS): EOL Ok
Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN): Added / EOL Ok
Brake System Node (NFR): Ok
Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV): Added / EOL Ok
Climate Control Node (NCL): EOL Ok
Side Acceler./Yaw Node (NYL): Ok
Parking Sensor Node (NSP): Ok
Airbag Node (NAB): EOL Ok

EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
Information displayed
Old value: Type 3/Blue&Me Nav
New value: Type 5/RadioNav
COMPLETED


EXECUTING ADJUSTMENT...
PROXI ALIGNMENT PROCEDURE
Writing CAN configuration data ...
Writing to module: Body Computer Node (NBC) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Dashboard Node (NQS) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN) FAILED! - Unknown error
Writing to module: Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Climate Control Node (NCL) SUCCESS!
Writing to module: Airbag Node (NAB) SUCCESS!
FAILED TO EXECUTE
Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN) FAILED! - Unknown error


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And a third time (still with Nav and B&M ON) I get that the vehicle is properly configured:

Reading CAN configuration data ...
CAN CONFIGURATION DATA:
05 00 84 EF 05 00 84 EF 00 00 04 21 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00
05 00 84 EF 04 00 04 A9 05 00 84 EF 04 00 04 A9 04 00 04 A9
33 33 31 39 38 30 30 30 39 33 33 4F 55 54 50 55 54 2D 4A 49 54 20 11 11 04 EF 84 00 05 A9 04 00 04 85 0B 20 07 BC 48 5F 07 00 02 81 06 01 1E 2D 28 00 91 04 53 00 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00 05 0C 01 00 00 00 3A 20 B8 88 00
Body Computer Node (NBC)
Engine Control Node (NCM)
Electric Steering Node (NGE)
Dashboard Node (NQS)
Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN)
Brake System Node (NFR)
Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV)
Climate Control Node (NCL)
Side Acceler./Yaw Node (NYL)
Parking Sensor Node (NSP)
Airbag Node (NAB)
25/03/2015 22:57:06
CONNECTED TO:
Fiat Bravo '07 1.4 Turbo 16V
CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure
--------------------------------------------------------------

Body Computer Node (NBC): EOL Ok
Engine Control Node (NCM): Ok
Electric Steering Node (NGE): Ok
Dashboard Node (NQS): EOL Ok
Receiver Radio/Radio Navigator Node (NRR/RMN): EOL Ok
Brake System Node (NFR): Ok
Info-Telematic/Convergence Node (NIT/NCV): EOL Ok
Climate Control Node (NCL): EOL Ok
Side Acceler./Yaw Node (NYL): Ok
Parking Sensor Node (NSP): Ok
Airbag Node (NAB): EOL Ok

WARNING: This vehicle is properly configured. PROXI Alignment is not needed!


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Any ideas on how to remove the factory navigation?

Hello Bericelli

Now I do not know if I translate it properly
You've unplugged the Navi / Blue & me?

Without it logging off with MES from the controller?

This should not do it !!!

Did you connect another device?
or again the same?

In both cases should always log off and log back on a
Be performed.



Is now a Navi / Blue & me installed in the vehicle ??


Greeting Eddy

Hello Alfaeddy,

Thanks for your answer to my problem!!

My goal: replace the factory navigation system with another more modern. The problem is that he navigation is part of the CAN network and when I remove it, I get a flashing odometer.
I tried to fix the flashing odometer and got this error that I mentioned in this post.

The procedure that I did was this:

1) Uninstall navigator (RadioNav / Instant Nav)
2) Uninstall Blue & Me located in the glovebox.
3) Connect my ELM cable to my Bravo
4) Put the key car on MAR
5) Did the Proxy Alignment procedure with MES
6) Got the error message
7) Put Instant Nav and B&M back and did a new Proxy Alignment and everything went ok (no flashing odometer)

In the end, I was unable to get rid of the Instant Nav. Maybe there is right way to uninstall it and proceed with the Proxy Alignment?

Thank you

I manage to fix the issue just by setting "Information Display" to "Blue&Me" instead of "RadioNav" and everything worked.

Thanks