Multiecuscan

Hi Yani.
After deactivation S&S and proxy alignment execution car not starts. Starter is silent.
After re-activation S&S everything is ok.
I sent You log.
Regards,
bogas

I have the same problem...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJuGMrpv6Ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5pGz5Z-qt0


Punto Evo 1,4 135HP Multiair.



Regards, ipIV

Hm, that is an interesting effect of disabling the S&S sytem in body computer.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what could be the reason for this behaviour. Is it possible that the non-S&S cars have different relay (with different control line from body computer) for operating the starter motor?

It seems that maybe it will not be so easy to disable the S&S system only by software. I added this function for guys who convert vehicles to electric. They had problem with the S&S vehicles (while everything worked fine in non-S&S) where the body computer kept complaining about S&S malfunction (even though the engine was not there anymore). So, disabling the system in Body computer resolved their problem.

After turn key to MAR position S&S is default enabled. Is it possible to reverse it? Default disabled (or something like that)?

This is the main reason for I bought MES : disabling this sh** of start and stop. But now I have a lot of other uses of MES

Yani, I have the problem with my Punto 2012 :
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4152

If I can help you, do some tests, electrical measure or other dont hesitate.

If it is definitely not possible with software, I work on a little hardware to add on (but it is more easy to do it via MES than remove the radio unit and wire something...)

Best regards

I checked the wiring diagram from mito 1.4 8v and there are differences between with S&S and without !

Without the kl.50 wire goes direct from ignition-switch to starter

With S&S it isn´t so !

KL.50 from Ignition switch goes to T20 ( Relais ) in engine compartment of B001

So there is second Relais T10 also in B001 this Handles also the starter.

Maybe this will help.

columbo25

Thanks for informations.

It's possible to have schematics you talk about ?

It would be great to understand how it's made with and without, perhaps it's possible to modify to definitely remove this module !

Try to find eLEARN on internet. In general it is free. On some website you can buy it.
Download it and and try... There you have schematics...

Thanks for informations.

I have eLearn for Grande Punto, but I can't find for newers cars like Punto Evo/2012. And Start & Stop is only with new cars.

sorry for gravedigging here...

any news about this topic after a year?
as i understood something have to be done physically to the electrical part of the car?