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FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 17:03
by unas
Hi guys,
I got a problem with Multiecuscan and the Adapter Cable 3.
I use a cheap USB ELM327 from ebay ( I made a picture of the internals: http://h8.abload.de/img/cimg0824pn8w.jpg )
which can properly connect to the things which dont need an adapter cable (green marked) but the rest needs the adapter cable 3, which I bought from the authorized distributor for germany.
But it always says "Cant connect to ECU", no matter what I try.

Are there any special settings I need to do ?


Btw: I also tried Scanmaster ELM, which works fine with the ELM (of course without the without adapter cable 3)

My car:
FIAT GRANDE PUNTO 1.4 8V
Magneti Marelli IAW 5SF3 CF4/EOBD Injection (8V) |INFO|DTC| ELMOBDKey
Magneti Marelli IAW 5SF8 CF5/EOBD Injection (8V) |INFO|DTC| ELMOBDKey
Magneti Marelli IAW 5SF8 Natural Power Injection (8V) |INFO|DTC| ELMOBDKey

Bosch ABS 8 ESP |INFO|DTC| ELMOBDKey
Bosch ABS 8 ESP (2) |INFO|DTC| ELMOBDKey

CONTINENTAL Airbag (Ep - PROXI) |INFO|DTC|PRM|ACT| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
TRW MY05 Airbag (Ep - PROXI) |INFO|DTC|PRM|ACT| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Delphi Electric Steering |INFO|DTC|PRM|ADJ| ELMOBDKey
Delphi Electric Steering (2) |INFO|DTC|PRM|ADJ| ELMOBDKey

Service Interval Reset |INFO|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Service Interval Reset (2) |INFO|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Marelli Instrument Panel |INFO|DTC|PRM|ACT|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Marelli Instrument Panel (2) |INFO|DTC|PRM|ACT|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
CAN Info |INFO| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
CAN Info |INFO| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure |INFO|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Delphi Body Computer |INFO|DTC|PRM|ACT|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Delphi Body Computer (2) |INFO|DTC|PRM|ACT|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Delphi Body Computer (3) |INFO|DTC|PRM|ACT|ADJ| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3
Denso climate control |INFO|DTC| ELM C19OBDKey C19 A3

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 19:27
by yani
Hi,

Looks like a faulty adaptor.
Can you measure the connections on the adapter using an ohmmeter?
It needs to have the following connections:
FEMALE CONNECTOR -> MALE CONNECTOR
16 -> 16
4,5 -> 4,5
6 -> 1
14 -> 9

Also, pins 1 and 9 on the male connector should not have short circuit to any other pins.

Regards,
Yani

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 16:36
by unas
I measured it, all connections are as you said, so the adapter cable seems to be fine.

Is it possible that the ELM327 is crap and cant do all ISO protocols?

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 16:55
by yani
Please send me a report using the red "Send Report" button on Multiecuscan main screen after trying to connect to some of the problematic modules so that I can see if there is some specific error message from the ELM.

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 28 Jul 2011, 19:31
by unas
I sent you the report, my Hardware ID is 730174700973-0003 (didnt know if you need this to relate my error report to this post).

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 05:09
by yani
I saw the log file. There seems to be nothing wrong with the software of the ELM. It accepts all commands, but it responds that it cannot connect to the ECU.
It is possible that the ELM interface has electric problem as in viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1493
Can you get another ELM interface from someone and test with it?

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 08:03
by unas
Hm thats weird because it can connect to the motor ECU and read all the data from it...
There wont be an easy way to find out what electric modification is needed?

I cant get my handy on another one, I think Iam going to buy a third one (the first was a chinese bluetooth one which is already broken)
from here: http://www.electronic-fuchs.de/shop/art ... 1000-26%26

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 29 Jul 2011, 09:01
by yani
I'm not exactly sure if the problem is in the ELM interface.
It could be either the ELM interface, the adapter, or problem at the OBD connector of the car.

Can you test your interface and the adapter on another car?

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 15:18
by hyrpel
Hey guys

I have the same problem, I own a Grande Punto 1.4 Tjet 16v

I can fine connect with out adapter cable, but with it makes fault

/Morten

Re: FES won't connect with Adapter Cable 3

Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 17:36
by Juggers2k
unas wrote:I measured it, all connections are as you said, so the adapter cable seems to be fine.

Is it possible that the ELM327 is crap and cant do all ISO protocols?
You've checked that the correct connections ARE there.
Have you checked that there aren't any additional connections that should not be there?
If any of the pins in the adaptor translate to pins that they shouldn't, it could cause problems.