[MiTo] Deactivation S&S

[bogas]

Hi Yani.
After deactivation S&S and proxy alignment execution car not starts. Starter is silent.
After re-activation S&S everything is ok.
I sent You log.
Regards,
bogas

[ipIV]

I have the same problem...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJuGMrpv6Ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5pGz5Z-qt0


Punto Evo 1,4 135HP Multiair.



Regards, ipIV

[yani]

Hm, that is an interesting effect of disabling the S&S sytem in body computer.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what could be the reason for this behaviour. Is it possible that the non-S&S cars have different relay (with different control line from body computer) for operating the starter motor?

It seems that maybe it will not be so easy to disable the S&S system only by software. I added this function for guys who convert vehicles to electric. They had problem with the S&S vehicles (while everything worked fine in non-S&S) where the body computer kept complaining about S&S malfunction (even though the engine was not there anymore). So, disabling the system in Body computer resolved their problem.

[ipIV]

After turn key to MAR position S&S is default enabled. Is it possible to reverse it? Default disabled (or something like that)?

[echappatte]

This is the main reason for I bought MES : disabling this sh** of start and stop. But now I have a lot of other uses of MES

Yani, I have the problem with my Punto 2012 :
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4152

If I can help you, do some tests, electrical measure or other dont hesitate.

If it is definitely not possible with software, I work on a little hardware to add on (but it is more easy to do it via MES than remove the radio unit and wire something...)

Best regards

[columbo25]

I checked the wiring diagram from mito 1.4 8v and there are differences between with S&S and without !

Without the kl.50 wire goes direct from ignition-switch to starter

With S&S it isn´t so !

KL.50 from Ignition switch goes to T20 ( Relais ) in engine compartment of B001

So there is second Relais T10 also in B001 this Handles also the starter.

Maybe this will help.

columbo25

[echappatte]

Thanks for informations.

It's possible to have schematics you talk about ?

It would be great to understand how it's made with and without, perhaps it's possible to modify to definitely remove this module !

[alfa156sarajevo]

Try to find eLEARN on internet. In general it is free. On some website you can buy it.
Download it and and try... There you have schematics...

[echappatte]

Thanks for informations.

I have eLearn for Grande Punto, but I can't find for newers cars like Punto Evo/2012. And Start & Stop is only with new cars.

[EnIgMa]

sorry for gravedigging here...

any news about this topic after a year?
as i understood something have to be done physically to the electrical part of the car?