Add Tonale in vehicle list

[Marmotta]

Hi! I want to buy the new Tonale Q4, the add of this model is "under construction"? I know this model have a sgw module integrated on body computer, and this is a problem.... Can I hope a workaround in the future?

[budgoz]

I'd like to know that as well

[s130]

Unless MES is registered as an Independent Diagnostic Tool with sites like https://webapp.autoauth.com/ (US only, EU to follow, etc) then I doubt MES will be able to fully used with ECUs with fully integrated SWG.

I also suspect that official sites like autoauth.com will only allow people to register for accounts if they are a valid commercial auto company and VAT/equivalent registered.

Whilst MES and AlfaOBD could technically support connection to manufacturer's servers via the likes of autoauth.com unless you are able/allowed to create an account with these parties then you will not be able to us MES other than to read parameters and fault codes.

[shpuncik]

Unless MES is registered as an Independent Diagnostic Tool with sites like https://webapp.autoauth.com/ (US only, EU to follow, etc) then I doubt MES will be able to fully used with ECUs with fully integrated SWG.

I also suspect that official sites like autoauth.com will only allow people to register for accounts if they are a valid commercial auto company and VAT/equivalent registered.

Whilst MES and AlfaOBD could technically support connection to manufacturer's servers via the likes of autoauth.com unless you are able/allowed to create an account with these parties then you will not be able to us MES other than to read parameters and fault codes.

shouldn't be a problem - just need to find out easily accessible place where to tap into CAN network and MES should work.

[s130]

shouldn't be a problem - just need to find out easily accessible place where to tap into CAN network and MES should work.

Possibly one can tap in elsewhere. Guess we will have to wait to see if anyone does this. A lot will depend on how the SGW is implmentent.

e.g. BCM <<------ encrypted ------>> ECU would be impossible? to get around.

[Mgaproduction]

HI
does anyone know if Multiecuscan works with alfa romeo tonale?
Thanks

[mORGAN]

Tonale was added to the list month ago, but I haven't read about anything about any sort of "SGW gateway" for it. Is there anything that can be done with this model at this point?

[illiac4]

Is this usable for Tonale?
https://www.diamini.it/sgw.html

[illiac4]

Realistically is there any hope that Tonale with SGW inside ECU will be 'hacked'? Is there any successful report of it already? Basically without computer you are not able to do anything. I think that even changing the brake pads is not possible.
I am thinking of selling this car and also saw that lately few machine 1.5 broke because of slipped time chain.

[abarthmultijet]

Realistically is there any hope that Tonale with SGW inside ECU will be 'hacked'? Is there any successful report of it already? Basically without computer you are not able to do anything. I think that even changing the brake pads is not possible.
I am thinking of selling this car and also saw that lately few machine 1.5 broke because of slipped time chain.

Have also found a few 1.3 and 1.5 with timing problems, but only the Hybrid variant. The car doesn't use it's starter motor but starts the engine with the high voltage alternator. Have not seen it in real life but thinking the crank bolt works its ways loose after a lot of aggressive belt starting.